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to the campaigns and one of the things the romney campaign said to do this summer after they won the nomination was and increasingly that sort of function is becoming a core function of the campaign and used to be to the extent you have was fund-raising and you could buy them from the vendors or consultants, and now people will have what they call one different things but there's basically a core function of the modern campaign to have people who are especially on the voter side just country and processing data. >> host: if any of us were to go into the romney campaign or obama campaign and look at the headquarters, are there a lot of young staff? what does it look like? >> guest: in chicago dozens of people depending on how you define that, the online analytical and every state they are hiring for jobs that are data jobs and the targeting directors. the obama campaign will want thousands of people run the country and hundreds of them are directly interacting with the data every day. >> host: do you think the republicans and democrats are more adept at using this technique or is that the same l
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